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Tuesday, November 8. 2005Zend Studio 5 Released - Containing most of my feature requests!Trackbacks
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Nice post. I have been a ZDE user since 4.0beta and I simply love it. It helps sooo much when using OOP & debugging features.
Two more things I'd have mentioned:
1. Go to Resource - Ctrl+Shift+G
2. Dragging field names directly from the SQL window is indeed very nice. The possibility to drag multiple fields would be awesome (it is already possible to select multiple fields but the dragging doesn't work). I couldn't really get used to the built-in SQL stuff yet, I still use phpMyAdmin. However, as soon as I discover enough features, I'll migrate.
62 bug reports?! :) I was hoping to get one of those promised Zend t-shirts for around 10 :) Good job! :)
Result: They added a "Find in Files" feature! While still not as powerful as that built into Homesite, it works and that's good enough for me.
Zend IDE has had the "Find in Files" feature in 4.0 and is not new in 5.0.
Actually, it is still a pain to jump to UltraEDIT or whatever to do a find and replace that can handle all files in the entire project / given directory / all open files...
Correct, and it was added to V4 after my feature request. Remember all of those requests were made while testing **3.5** ! This article is more a summary of what I originally raised 1.5 years ago and what was added since.
"Result: Version 5 has a very good built-in database explorer and query editor. But what is most interesting is this - drag a column name from the db browser window to your source code and watch what happens"
Nothing happens? I drag a column name 'DESCRIPTION' to the editor window and all I get is the string 'DESCRIPTION' placed where I drag it too...
What do you get?
That's exactly what you're supposed to get. When read in the context of my post (i.e. 'dragging column names directly into the code would be useful'), that is exactly what they implemented. They could do with dragging whole tables / multiple columns now.
Ah... yes, you are correct.
I guess I was too busy developing in Zend 5.0. ;-)
BTW: What's your feelings on going towards an Eclipse based IDE next? Should they discontinue the development of Zend IDE as we all know it? We would benefit greatly in terms of code editing feature. But the Zend debugging feature in Eclipse would need to be par or better... Zend debugging is by far the best available.
Several years ago (when Zend first kicked out the IDE) it was pretty much unique, and err full of bugs ;) But they have done a good job of making it a truly useful development environment. However at the same time competition has grown stronger and 'alternative' IDEs appear on a regular basis. We can wait and see if Eclipse will be their solution, I think (for now at least) it will just be an alternative. Without the debugging, profiling features it won't be worth considering. With them, perhaps. But I've never been a fan of the interface, so I personally hope it isn't the 'way forward'.
Agreed!
I am not an Eclipse interface fan either.
(I personally like IntelliJ for Java development, even though Netbeans 5.0 is looking better all the time... but, that's another thread.)
But, I tend to believe that Zend customers are looking for strong editing features, which Eclipse could offer, among other features.
Plus, in the long run - maintaining an Eclipse based IDE could be more cost efficient $$$ for Zend rather than continuing a custom Java IDE solution.
For example, concentrating on adding the *best* features from Zend IDE 5.0 like debugging and profiling to Eclipse and not have to worry about editing, project management, search features; which Eclipse already does a good job with.
Zend wants to be Enterprise and I believe they want to focus their attention towards their enterprise projects, Zend Framework, Zend Platform and Zend Core.
BTW: What time is it there? I am in Omaha, Nebraska USA.
I will have to install Eclipse and see if it truly offers anything unique over the current Zend IDE build. I have to confess that I'm not a true believer in "Java based" editors. I don't believe you'll ever get anything as slick as the likes of Visual Studio 2005 out of a Java codebase - at least, I've yet to see it.
I know that Zend need to go for cross-platform in order to widen their market and be truly "enterprise", but a cross-platform designed IDE will never be as efficient as an OS dedicated one.
Zend on the Mac is the most un-Mac like experience you can have, with a broken installer and non-standard layout. Zend on Windows, while it works, needs a monster PC, or is slow as hell thanks to the poor Java implementation under the hood, I've no idea what it runs like on a Linux box.
Perhaps if Eclipse has already addressed these issues it will be a good move - but I seriously doubt it, and I think we've a long time to wait until one of the OS dependant IDEs offers the same kind of features as ZDE - so we're sort of stuck in a limbo right now. I spend nearly all day in ZDE (hell, I could write a book on it), but there are times when the Javaness just shines through.
Yeah Zend should change their installer for ZDE it takes one night and one day installing the 95mb files in my pc. Java VM Sucks!!! Pull this shit out of the installer, Why not use other installer. Zend people should do something about it. I like the Editor, but with this java thing I may opt for other editor. Am not Anti-java I'm annoyed using java applications, It's very slow man forget java.
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2006-07-05 18:44
"Zend on the Mac is the most un-Mac like experience you can have, with a broken installer and non-standard layout. Zend on Windows, while it works, needs a monster PC, or is slow as hell thanks to the poor Java implementation under the hood, I've no idea what it runs like on a Linux box."
I was hoping that on linux it were faster ... how wrong i was. Java on linux is even worst than on windows.
IMHO there is only ONE thing wrong with the Zend Studio; it's made with Java.
Seriously, this IDE is great but I have the cutting edge dualcore CPU with 2gig of RAM and It take longer to load than windows XP!!
That's pretty frustrating knowing that all i want to do is edit a god damn text file.
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2006-11-23 18:42
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